Hmm. You already know how many other people have access. Why don't we show this as subtitle otherwise? This would prevent this little jump. Misread the code ;)

Yeah the title jump is not ideal. But good enough for a quick fix.
@nextcloud/designers for better ideas for 18.0.1 ;)

@nextcloud/designers for better ideas for 18.0.1 ;)

• Show the subtitle directly
• Don’t even show the triangle toggle on the right if there’s no others with access

@nextcloud/designers for better ideas for 18.0.1 ;)

* Show the subtitle directly

* Don’t even show the triangle toggle on the right if there’s no others with access

We can't do that. The toggle triggers a request to the backend. And since this can be very costly. We don't want to do it on all openings of the sidebar.

Ok, then different proposal:
If there are no others with access, on opening the "Others with access" menu, show an entry like a person entry saying:

No others with access
People with access to parent folders will show up here

If there are no others with access, on opening the "Others with access" menu, show an entry like a person entry saying:

No others with access
People with access to parent folders will show up here

I find that very user friendly and self-documenting

@jancborchardt fine by me. Please fill an issue. And we'll see if we can tackle it for 18. Or if it has to wait for 18.0.1 because of time constraints.